Exploring DEI and Birthright Citizenship Amidst Controversies

In this episode of 'The Last Conversation,' host Stephan delves into the complexities of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) and its significance in workplaces and schools. The episode begins with a moment of silence for the victims of American Eagle Flight 5342, followed by a critique of the President's response to the tragedy. Stephan argues against the politicization of DEI and emphasizes its importance in bridging gaps for marginalized communities. He also explores DEI programs' history and ongoing challenges, touching on affirmative action and corporate commitments. Additionally, the show covers the controversial topic of birthright citizenship, its historical roots, and recent legal battles. The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to remain vigilant and advocate for inclusive policies.

00:00 DEI
00:23 Intro Monolong
04:00 DEI 
29:23 Birthright

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Transcript

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Hey everyone, my name is Stephan, and welcome to another episode of The Last Conversation. Today's episode, we are going to talk about DEI exclusively, but as I said in a past episode, we are going to also talk a little bit about birthright citizenship. Let's get started.

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So before we get started with our show today, I do want to take a moment of silence for the American Eagle Flight 5342. Because we did lose 63 people. So we're gonna take a moment of silence for them. Okay, so we're not going to get into that story because it's not on the docket, but I wanted to mention that because if you saw the president's remarks on it, he goes to doing a blame game. And let me just hop on my little spiel and I will get right off of it and then we will start with the real show. As the President of the United States, we are looking for you to comfort the country and tell us that flying is still safe, this was just a very freak accident and that you're praying for the families that have lost loved ones on that flight, and showing sympathy and saying that you're going to visit, the crash site and you're going to call the victims families. That is what I'm expecting for a president to do, but unfortunately, we don't have that type of president. We have a president who would rather play the blame game and be like, Oh, well, it's Democrats fault. It's DEI's fault because they hire incompetent traffic controllers and like, why are you doing this? So I'm expecting a president who would rather play the blame game and be like, Oh, well, it's DEI's fault because they hire incompetent traffic controllers and The thought behind that is so degrading because you are, you're just trying to create an enemy, right? It's a freak accident. It's not about playing the blame game. It's about trying to find out what are the answers, what happened, how can we make sure this does not happen again, right? And to say, oh, well, the traffic controller was a DEI hire. It's like, what does that have to do with how this accident happened? And then he goes on to say in the press conference, if you look it up on TikTok, he says that the DEI hire was unqualified for that position. And let me tell you, the FAA came out, did a press conference, and said how extensively the training is. One, you can't be older than 32 years old. You, it's like four years of traffic controller school. So these, you can't get past that. Most people can barely get past certain things. So if you're in four years of traffic controller school, you're not unqualified. You're qualified. You passed all the tests, right? And so my take on that was that you are just a useless, pathetic excuse for a person for you to sit here and try and play the blame game and especially blame D. E. I. Which seems to be the common enemy in the Republican Party. So if anyone is not a white man, you are a DEI hire, and this administration does not like you, right? They say, oh, well, we're here for merit. Merit does not exist in a white America, right? White corporate America. It just doesn't exist. So, let me get off my soapbox. We'll be right back so we can talk about DEI.

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Now, before we start talking about DEI, I want to ask you, the people who are listening to this podcast, a question. Do you believe that DEI is necessary in this country? that is my question for you. Do you believe it belongs in the workplace? Do you believe it belongs in schools? do you believe it, right? Do you believe the reason of why it was created? Do you feel as though if you took this out, And just replace it with merit. Do you think those marginalized communities would still have an equal opportunity at getting those prestigious jobs? That's the question that I pose for you. Now experts on DEI have shared what their version of what DEI stands for. So let's get into it. The first one is diversity. It is embracing the differences everyone brings to the table, whether those are someone's race, age, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation, physical ability, or other aspects of social identity, Then we move on to E, which is, you can either use equity or equality, whichever one. Is treating everyone fairly and providing equal opportunity. And then you also have inclusion. It's respecting everyone's voice, creating a culture in which people from all backgrounds feel encouraged to express their ideas and perspectives. DEI was created because marginalized communities have not always had equal opportunities for jobs or felt a sense of belonging in majority white corporate settings, said Daniel Ugg founder of the Courage Collective. He goes on to say that this is the geniuses of why some of these programs exist, he said. It was an attempt to try to create workplaces where more or all people can thrive, right? So when we look at DEI and what I like to tell people is that DEI is everyone except white men. And even if, and there are some people out there who are white women, you are a DEI because let's remember probably almost 60, 70 years ago, you barely had the right to vote. You were put into boxes of where you could work. Or vote, right? Everything was through your husband. If you didn't have a husband, you couldn't do absolutely nothing, right? So when you hear people talk about DEI, that is everyone who is not a white male, that is essentially giving you a voice at that table as essentially getting you that interview at that corporate prestigious job that maybe. You weren't going to get, right? DEI, in my view, is a bridge. It is that way to get people who are not white men, into those places, right? And something that I, when you talk about companies that are backing away from DEI, I look at it as, your customers aren't just white men, right? You have a variety of different races and religions that Buy stuff from your store. Hell, McDonald's has made most of America fat anyway So I don't understand why they would be pulling out of DEI. You have Target And all these other companies that are backing away or changing their Initiative on DEI and it's like well, I want representation in my company because I have customers all different who buy my product. But Republicans has made it a enemy. They have made it enemy number one, right next to transgender people, right? Because they feel as though if you are a DEI hire, you're not qualified for the job. And that is completely bullshit, because let me tell you, someone who has a different skin color could have even more qualifications than their white counterpart. And the only reason why they probably won't get that interview is because they looked at the application and said, oh, well, they're black. Who knows if all these qualifications are real? Maybe they made them up. Right? So that's the issue that we're fighting with. DEI is not an enemy. DEI is a bridge to get us into those places. that goes for government as well. That goes for just almost anything. The origins of DEI program date back to the Civil Rights Movement, which played a pivotal role in accelerating efforts to create more diverse and inclusion workplaces said Dominique Hollins, founder of DEI Consulting Firm. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 outlawed employment discrimination based on race, gender, sex, color, and national origins. It also banned segregation in public spaces, like public schools and libraries. Title IX of the Civil Rights Act established the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, or the EEOC, which works to eliminate employment discrimination. In the 1960s and 70s, employees began filing discrimination lawsuits with the EEOC. And many companies started incorporating diversity into their business strategies by providing diversity training, according to a 2008 report published by the Academy of Management, Learning and Education. These diversity training efforts emerged around the time affirmative action began by executive order of then President John F. Kennedy. Although the concept may seem similar, Affirmative Action is different from DEI as it is required federal contractors by executive orders to treat applicants and employees with equal based on race, color, religion, and sex. Colleges and universities also used Affirmative Action to boost enrollment of students of color at majority white schools, but the Supreme Court in 2003 gutted the Affirmative Action ruling that race conscious college administrations was unconstitutional. Some diversity efforts lost momentum after GOP President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s backed corporate deregulation policies asserting companies should address discrimination internally. In the coming decades, many companies kept pushing for DEI focused jobs and training in the piecemeal fashion rather than creating ongoing programs and dedicated teams. So, when you look at it, DEI really started back during the Civil Rights era, right? It was to bridge that gap, to make sure that there was diversity in the workplace. Remember, back in segregation, there were separate water fountains that weren't cleaned. There were bathrooms that weren't cleaned. White people thought that. People of color were disgusting, or we had germs and all this other stuff, and you can go look at it, we're not doing a history lesson here right now, but that's when it started, to bridge that gap, to get people of a different race section, all that, into the workplace, into schools, right? As I said, it's in schools, it's in the workplaces, just in public, right? And I remember I watched an interview,

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Let's see how DEI looked in the workplace, in 2023, 61 percent of U. S. adults said their workplace had policies focusing on fairness in hiring, promotions, and pay. Thrivant, for example, has resource groups for women in leadership, young professional, black employees, Hispanic and military veterans, among others. Baker told CNN in a previous interview, it's D. I. Training teach employees how to understand and bridge cultural differences in the workplace, she said, adding tried and also seeks job candidates with diversity in the race. Geography, gender, industry background. Many corporations tie DEI to their business strategies. Diversity is related to our business growth Baker said. It's pragmatic and it's essential and critical for us to ensure that our client base reflects the world that we are in and the world that we are going to be in. So I work for an insurance company. And one thing that I love about the company is they have an amazing DEI incentive program. And they have a lot of these different groups that, you know, and one of them is called, I don't know the full name, but it's, it's like. It's, it's like we have our own like black space, or is that really the word? African Americans in insurance, but they have all these different inclusive programs in the company. So you can find a space that fits for you, that you can be involved in. And even if you are a different sex, so like there is a women's group. And I joined it because most of you know who listen to this show, I'm a feminist. And so I joined it and you can join all these other ones and it's not because I want. It's because I'm an ally and I support what they do, And that's one thing I do love about the company is that it is very inclusive. With all diversities, all walks of life. You know, you can, they have fundraisers, they have charities. You can do volunteer events for your different organizations that you may be involved in. And the company will pay you to do those because you're being involved in the community. So I always thought that was really cool. Anyways, let's get back to the article. So there's always going to be critics of DEI, right? You have that Tennessee lawmaker when then former Vice President Kamala Harris was running for president. He's like, oh, well Biden only hired her because she's a DEI hire. Not because she has been Attorney General for California, or it's not like she's had all these prestigious jobs, and she has the education behind it, and she is also the sitting Vice President. She also ran for President on her own, but she's a DEI hire. You see how they reduce people to nothing? You could have all this stuff on your resume, but there's still critics of this is going to be like, you're still a DEI hire. Not that I went to college. I got my bachelor's degree. I've traveled all over the world with these prestigious jobs, I've done X, Y, and Z, but then yet, these critters are gonna be like, well, he's a DEI high. As I've told a lot of my colored brothers and sisters and everyone else who's not a white man, you are going to be born, and especially to my African American community, you are born two steps behind your white counterpart. You're not born equal. Far from it. You are two steps behind. Which means that every step that they take, you are going to be two steps behind. Which means that you have to get two steps ahead. Can't be the same. It's never going to work. Can't be one step, not going to work. Two, three steps ahead in whatever you're doing just a side note, I talked to my best friend and, you know, she's out in the world dating, well, we're both dating, not each other, just in the world and, you know, she was telling me about this guy, and she's like, oh, well, he wants to do, he wants to do this particular thing, and she's like, well, is there anything else you want to do, and the guy's like, no, I just want to do this, and, you know, we're talking about it, and I'm like, Yeah, I don't think so. It's like, you know, she's a huge person on education and as I was telling her, I was like, you can't, you can't just stop at one thing, right? That one thing isn't going to get you very far. You live in a very, you live in a white America, essentially, where you need to be two times Better than your counterpart, but that was just a personal example of what I was trying to say. The critics of DEI, this is what they have to say. In recent years, DEI has become a social and political lightning rod for lawmakers, corporate leaders, and conservative activists who have sought to cast such initiatives as unfair and even racist with some emboldened by the Supreme Court gutting affirmative care. Certain people, which you know who they are, white men, feel as though the initiative is unfair and even racist. How is it unfair and how is it racist? Explain that to me. If you are watching this and you can make comments, explain how DEI is unfair and racist when DEI incorporates everyone except white men. White men has always had privilege in this country. So it baffles me when you say that something's unfair, baffles me. It's, and let's be clear, DEI isn't, doesn't stop white people from being hired. That's, that's obviously not the case. It's to bridge that gap to get more diversity into a company. So you tell me, how does DEI. Make it unfair for a white man or racist for a white man to get a job when they can go work at any Fucking place they want in the United States and would get hired with very little to no qualifications Explain that to me. Indeed, the ideology behind DEI is fundamentally anti American, said Ryan P. Williams, president of the Claremont Institute. Conservative think tank. The word that the acronym DEI represents sound nice, but it's nothing more than affirmative action and racial preference by a different name. A system that features racial headcount and arbitrary assigned roles of oppressor or oppressed groups in America, William said in an email. If we continue to do democracy this way, it will only end in anarchy, strife, resentment, and American collapse. Some critics argue that DEI programs on college campuses have failed to protect Jewish students and faculty from anti sentiment bullying and harassment. A 2024 Stanford University report highlighted a cause in which Jewish staff reported being pressured to join the DEI program, Whiteness Accountability Affirmative Group. They allege that the program erased Jewish identity, the report said. There was no space for these Jewish employees to share their lived experiences to raise their concern about anti semitism., Ackman, the billionaire investor, last year posted a 4, 000 word op on X, criticizing the DEI as inherently a racist and illegal movement and its implication, even if it prompts work on behalf of its so called oppressed. Musk, the Trump confident and billionaire Tesla later reposted on X. DEI is just another word for racism. Shame on anyone who uses it, Musk wrote. DEI, because it discriminates on the basis of race, gender, and many other factors, is not merely immoral, it's illegal. Tesla since then omitted all language regarding minority workers and outreach to minority communities in Securities and Exchange Commission. That's what critics are saying. It's racist. DEI, which is for people who are not a white male, is racist? The Jewish one, I feel like there's more research that needs to be done into that. I don't believe that. That's not something that I've been hearing. I feel like Jewish students would be relatively safe in a DEI place because they are Jewish and because there are people who hate the Jewish community, which I don't know why, but okay. But I feel like they would be safe in a DEI place because we are incorporating people of different religions, different backgrounds, different nationalities. Right. that's what DEI incorporates. Not all businesses are backing away. Like Costco has seen a huge influx of a lot of people backing Costco because they said we're not getting rid of DEI, we're going to stand strong behind it. That's what we represent. Apple is also on that market, too, of where they are defending DEI, because they're like, we're not backing down. Mark Cuban, billionaire and, minority leader of the Dallas Mavericks, pushed back on Musk's post. The loss of DEI phobic companies is my game, Cuban wrote. Having a workplace or workforce that is diverse and representative of my stakeholders is good for business. Companies turning backs on strategies to promote diversity will limit equal opportunities for people who face disadvantages because of their skin color, the neighborhood they grew up in, the quality of schools they attended, and other forces beyond their control. Two black pioneer business leaders, former Maverick CEO Ken Frazier and former American Express CEO Ken Chesnut told CNN. At its best, DEI is about developing talent. Measuring it in a fair way and finding hidden talent and disadvantaged talent in the world where not everybody has an equal chance to exhibit their abilities. So, DEI is not an enemy, right? DEI is incorporating people who look different, who sound different, who maybe, who are a different sexual orientation, who come from different religious beliefs, who are a different nationality, right? Who come from different backgrounds, who don't look like a white cis men, right? That's what DEI is. It's not about having DEI as an enemy. It's about incorporating it, right? Because that's what America is. America is DEI. And if you go back to eliminating DEI and be like, Well, we're just going to do it off merit. Those marginalized communities, my community, We're not going to have a fucking chance in a white corporate America. Merit does not exist. For marginalized communities, because you know why our merit is never going to be good enough to get those jobs that we want. I have to be two times better than any white person if I want a certain job. Right? So it's not like, oh, well I can get a bachelor's degree and be done. No, now I have to push for my master's or my PhD. I have to keep pushing. It's never going to be over. Right? We don't live We can't live in a merit base because it's never going to work out. And for those black republicans out there, Nigga, you wouldn't have your job if you didn't start spewing the same bullshit that they're talking about. Because sooner or later they're going to turn on you and call you a DEI hire too. You should know. You've seen the struggle of what our marginalized communities go through. And that's just to get an interview in the door. We're at about 15 minutes. I'm gonna let you listen to represent Jasmine Crockett from Texas as she explains her version of DEI in a press, I believe it was more of her swearing in. So, take a listen.

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So I do want to be clear about diversity, equity and inclusion, because I think that that's really a good place to start. the diversity, equity and inclusion includes so much more than that, right? It includes making sure that we're looking at people that are within the L. G. B. T. Q. I. A. Community and making sure that they have protections. It's looking at making sure that those that come from rural America. High protections is looking at women. It's looking at our uniquely abled citizens. It is looking at basically making sure that we are not just old, straight white men. That that's it. And it's making sure that everyone has an opportunity. It's making sure that those governmental agencies look like who we are in this country. And so I think that that probably has to be the most urgent thing because I think that it is all encompassing. And it's looking at our civil rights. As a whole. In addition to the fact that what we're experiencing is they went after our education with the affirmative action decision. this all goes to economics right at a time in which we still can't get anyone to agree to raise the minimum wage, which hasn't been raised in probably close to 20 years. Now that we're going on, we see that the billionaire class is continuously overnight. Just making more and more money. I mean, the richest man in the world literally made like another 200 billion dollars like, in the few days after the election, right? And so, what we've gotta do is make sure that number one, we're not allowing people to divide us because I will be honest, we were divided in this election about trans folk. That's just the reality. The reality is that when we start to talk about trans folk, trans folk make up probably less than 1%, not probably, they make up less than 1 percent of who we are in this country. But if you allow them to divide us over trans rights, then they can divide us over immigration, which they did that as well. It's the division that is killing us, and the reality is that it's not really about whether or not you agree, like it, love it, or understand it. It's about understanding that this is supposed to be the land of opportunity and the land of the free for all. Let's stand with our LGBTQ community. Let's stand with our immigrant community. Let's stand with black folk. Let's stand with women. Let's stand together because there's more of us than there are of the select few that are pushing this white supremacy agenda. We cannot get caught up in it. And when you look back at the playbook of Hitler, it never was just about black people. It's the exact same people that they're pointing fingers at and that they went after. And so I am encouraging everyone to stand together.

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For a lot of people, there's something that we kind of take advantage of. if you're not into, history or U. S. government or the Constitution, maybe you didn't know about this, but There is a such thing as birthright citizenship here in the United States. Now, birthright citizenship was enshrined in the 14th Amendment, and this was honestly for former slaves, because back then, they did not believe that slaves had citizenship, right? So this is why that was created. Now, Trump's version, even though I'm gonna Share a press conference of what he said the first part of it is correct And then he goes on to blabbering afterward, but the reason why this is so Legality tested is because it would mean that anyone who's born here in the United States would not automatically get citizenship under certain Circumstances, there's certain parameters that they would have to meet In order not to be a citizen. Now, obviously this was something that Trump signed on day one of one of his executive orders, They have to go through Congress to get approved. And with the legal, I would say aura that's around it right now, it's definitely not going anywhere. two federal judges have cost. I've called it unconstitutional. Let's get into it. So birthright citizenship is the principle that someone born in the country is a citizen of that country. In the United States, it enshrines the 14th Amendment in the Constitution, which states all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction there, thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state within they reside. It was ratified in 1868. To ensure that citizens of former slaves in the Civil War. Now, critics, so people who are against this, mainly Republicans of all their wisdom, it's really targeting immigration. So, they have urged that this provides an incentive for people to come to or remain in the U. S. illegally. They know that if they have children in the United States, those children will become citizens who might later petition. For their parents to become legal permanent residents in an effort to curb unlawful immigration, Trump issued an executive order just after being sworn in for his second term on the past week, the order drew immediate legal challenges across the country with at least five lawsuits being brought by 22 other states and a number of immigrant right groups, a lawsuit brought by Washington, Arizona and Oregon and Illinois. Now, as I said, this is a way for them to try and curb immigration. And, let me tell ya, birthright citizenship isn't going to curb any type of immigration whatsoever. Like, it's not gonna have an effect. And this policy, if it ever got passed, he said it would start in February. That means everybody else is fine. And this wouldn't really have an effect. Like, this isn't going to solve immigration, or at least in my view, it's not going to solve immigration at all. It's probably like a penny in an empty bucket. Yippee, you're not rich off that. And it's not really going to help immigration whatsoever. But anyways, so let's go into what are some of the legal challenges. The judge's ruling Thursday was a temporary restraining order. It blocks the administration from enforcing or even implementing Trump's order naturally for the next 14 days. Now, obviously that 14 days has expired. Over the next two weeks, the sides will submit further briefing on the legal merits of the executive order. They have scheduled another hearing in February, February 6th to hear arguments on whether the issue to issue a plenary injunction, which would block the executive order longterm. While the case does proceed. In the meantime, some of the other cases challenging the orders are also getting underway. The next hearing is in a case brought by Maryland by the CASA, a non profit immigration rights organization based in Mid Atlantic. They're set to have a hearing February 5th in the U. S. District Court in Greenbelt, Maryland. Another lawsuit led by New Jersey on behalf of the 18 states, the District of Columbia and San Francisco, and a challenge brought in Massachusetts by the Brazilian Workers Center. Do not yet have hearings scheduled. Aside from arguing the executive order constitutionally, the state say the order would subject all the children affected by it to deportation and make many of them stateless. It would strip them of their rights and render them unable to participate in economic or civil life. Contrary to what everyone believes, there's not enough detail in his reasoning during his hearing about his assertion that the order the judge said it's blatantly unconstitutional as well as point blank questioning of the DOJ attorneys, Britt Scharmont. The states say that it is that it's well settled. 14 Amendment guarantees birthright citizenship and that the president lacks authority to determine who should or should not be granted U. S. citizenship. the Department of Justice later said in a statement that it will vigorously defend the President's executive order. They said we look forward to presenting full merit argument in the court and to the American people. Who are desperate to see our nation's laws enforced. That's birthright citizenship. As I said, it's something that has been enshrined for years and years. And it doesn't necessarily curb immigration. It may put a small dent, but as it said, it would make all the children stateless. Immigration has been an issue. It has been an issue for many presidents. And it's, there's really no clear way of how to handle it. And this administration believes that it has what, they have the answer to it. And it's mass deportations, it's taking away birthright citizenship. It's about getting rid of DEI. It's about getting rid of everyone, essentially. And we have a war on our hands, so we gotta keep fighting. when we come back, we're gonna finish up with some final thoughts. And I'll see you guys in a second.

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So that concludes our episode for today. D. E. I. is not an enemy. Okay? D. E. I. is essentially for everyone who is not a white male here in America. D. E. I. was that bridge for those Minority communities to finally have a chance to get those jobs that they want to see. Finally have that voice at the table. Finally have an equal chance and an equal promotion, right, in a white corporate America. Those who are proponents of DEI, mainly, they're white. Right? Proponents of those DEIs don't understand the struggle of a minority in a white America, right? And as I said, it's really about diversity. No matter where you are, you want to have a diverse workforce. You want to have a diverse school because people learn differently. You know, some students who are from minority communities could learn better from having a black teacher because that black teacher is going to understand the life that they're probably living. Or probably live having that inclusion, making sure that everybody's voice is welcomed at that table and heard at that table. And as I said, if you are a white woman, that includes you too, all women. But I particularly want to also make sure we mention white women in there too, so y'all don't think that you're excluded from this. If we go based off of merit, we don't have diversity. If we go based off of merit, that merit bar will always be put higher to make sure that our minority communities are never within reach of that job that they want. Are never at that table to voice their ideas. We can't go to a merit based country. It just does not work here in America. Something that I always say to people is that America was founded by immigrants. Right? We've all come from different parts of the world, and some of us came here by force. DEI is a foundation piece of the United States. That's what makes us one of the greatest countries. So I understand if maybe you're listening to this and you're like, well, you know, I'm just not feeling it. That's fine. I'm not saying you have to love it. I'm not saying that you have to be a cheerleader for it, but understand the fundamentals behind it. Understand that you may have that black coworker that you love and like they crack you up. Understand that certain people wouldn't like to see that person or that workspace held for that school, We all learn differently. We all want to make sure that we are represented at every table that we sit at. Your federal government should look like America, but the way that this administration is, it's not looking anything like what America, and I want to touch on birthright citizenship. It has been enshrined in the 14th Amendment. Birthright citizenship is a granted thing. It's going to get challenged and it's not going to pass whatsoever. Oh. They can say it's to curb immigration. Pay attention. I want you to pay very close attention to this new administration. Challenge things that need to be challenged. Be a voice for DEI, especially if you're in a workplace that has a diversity. Understand that we have to fight back. This administration is going to throw a lot of curveballs our way, a lot of things that we're not going to like and the only way we can make sure we voice those opinions is by you going out there on social media, voicing those opinions and sharing what's not right, making sure you have a voice is my job. So my call to action is for you to speak speak up, voice your opinions. And the last thing I wanna say, be open-minded. We cannot change this world, this country, the state, our local government officials, unless we are open-minded. You have to be able to hear the other side and be able to challenge it. One thing that people know me for when I'm in jobs is I challenge things, especially when it's full of bullshit. So, I want you all to be safe out there. Thank you for listening to this show. Please make sure that you share it on Instagram, YouTube, Twitter, TikTok. All of it. Share it with your friends, your family. Have them understand the real meaning behind DEI and ask them, hey, is this something that you would make sure that we are always striving to make sure that we achieve? We're gonna end with Trump's announcement or his press conference into birthright citizenship, so take a listen.

Pres Trump: 38:24

It was really meant for children of slaves. This is what had happened to children of slaves. It was not meant for everyone to come into our country by airplane or charging across the borders from all over the world and think they're going to become citizens.