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From Birth Control to Maternal Mortality: Unpacking Healthcare's Complex Landscape

Stephan Garrison Season 1 Episode 9

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      In this episode, we celebrate Women's History Month by highlighting a newly approved over-the-counter birth control pill, OPLL, as a significant step forward for women's autonomy and access to contraception, especially for those living in contraceptive deserts or seeking privacy. We then switch topics to maternal mortality rates in the black and brown communities, exacerbated by systemic racism within healthcare. It calls for more inclusive policies and services to support all women, regardless of their economic status. We then revisit IVF to clarify some unanswered questions. 

0:00 From Birth Control to Maternal Mortality: Unpacking Healthcare's Complex Landscape
05:42 Birth Control Over The Counter "Opill" 
17:54 Maternal Mortality
29:50 Alabama V. IVF Retake 
38:45 The Green Goblin


To all my Melanated People (Black & Brown), it's never a sign of weakness to ask for help when you really need it. Life is not cupcakes and rainbows—struggles are what make us stronger!

Stephan:

I don't have a interesting fact for you today, but I have something a little bit better. Because. You know, we're always inspiring to increase our mental health and sometimes you just have to hear a motivational message. That resonates with you. This one resonates with me. I hope it resonates with you. Take listen. Please three things that you should stop doing immediately. If you want to be happier. Number one. You have to stop regarding the past. There's nothing you can do about it. Don't forget the past. You can learn from it and get better from it. So you don't make the same mistakes, but you got to stop regretting the past. Number two. It stopped worrying about the future. Psychologists have found that 85% of what you worry about on a daily basis will never happen. That's a waste of your energy. That's a waste of your time. And the number three, stop looking for your happiness and other people. Other people cannot make you happy. It is absolutely. Impossible. Happiness is 100% an inside job, welcome to the last conversation.

Stephan Garrison:

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Stephan:

What. Up am. It's been. I think two weeks since our last episode came out. So yay. Today's show. Is going to be about all of our women out there. Like this, this show is geared toward women. We can not have a women's. History month and not have an episode that's geared toward women. Come on now. As most of you guys all know I am a feminist. Let me describe what a feminist in my Volusion, because there was different versions because everybody is different. In the, how they describe a feminist. So I'm a feminist because I support women. That's either getting jobs that's equal pay equal healthcare. All that amazing stuff, you know, not work care, not won't care on. Not, not no sexual violence in the workplace. I want women to feel empowered to be able to. Pretty much to do whatever they want to do, you know in a sense. I do have something for you at the end of the show about a particular, a woman. Our favorite person in the world, Marvi Taylor green, or as most of you guys know her as the green goblin. But I'll save that because that is a small present. I want you guys to hear, especially for all of you guys who were in Georgia, this is, this is your Congresswoman, and this is what she's saying on the streets anyways. We're moving past that. Let's talk about. Really important stuff. Like birth control. But you would think. That is fundamentally available. Right? Which it is, but you have to go through kind of like all this red tape. To get birth control, but old pill was just manufactured and it was FDA approved. Last week. To where now this is an over the counter birth control. But I didn't want to say that this is an achievement, because now it's over the counter and you don't have to go through all the doctor's appointments. For all of our younger women out there who kind of want some. I wouldn't say Secret see, but maybe you don't want to have that conversation with your parents, or maybe you don't want your parents all up in your business. Because you want to feel like you're being an adult. And you want to get birth control. So now you can get this birth control pill. Right over the counter. And then we're going to switch gears to that's a little more depressing. And that is our maternal death rate and our black and brown community. This article, I was just looking through some stuff of what to talk about, and this actually popped up. And let me tell you how many rabbit holes this article has. Like I'll read one article and then I'm going to another one. Or move onto another one. Yeah, but it it's, it's a thing. And it's something that we haven't really been paying a lot of attention to. And so I want to go ahead and talk about it. Next and final, last name to run. Talk about his last episode we talked about. The IVF. Alabama Supreme court. Right now, I don't know about you, but sometimes I'll read things and I'm like, wow, like I've, I've been left with more questions. And maybe some of you guys who have listened to that episode is like wat. So. I actually found a, another article. That I will. Actually publish the link in our description. It was published by the John Hopkins Bloomberg school of public health. There's three questions on there that they ask that will. Clarify, what this is all about. As I said, I'll put the link below, so then you can actually listen to it. It's a podcast, to be honest with you. It's about 19 minutes, but you can listen to it while you're on the road or whatever the case may be. But it's real interesting. So that's all we're talking about here on the last conversation. And. Yeah, that's it let's go. Let's let's start it. Someone, someone start the. The intro. Nope. We did the intro music already. All right. So let's talk about birth control as most of you guys. Now it has been something that is another controversial issue. In. The political world and the political specter. But now ope hill. It's called OPL like O P I L L M has now released last Monday, a pill that you can order online through Oak hill dot com or Amazon. Birth control. Old pill has suggested that retail price will be about$20 for one month supply. And it'll be about$50 for a three month supply. and@opl.com a sick month. Six month supply will be available for about 90 bucks. Old pill will be available in CVS and through CVS pharmacy app in late March. So later this month a spokesman wrote in an email in early April, more than 7,500 CVS pharmacy stores will offer OPL and for added privacy and convenience, customers will be able to choose. Same day delivery or buy Alon and pick up on store. They also said that if you do buy it online, it's going to come in a very discreet package. So it doesn't have anything that resonates with. With birth control or anything like that, it's like, if you order like a. If you order. A a sexual thing. From like, Adam and Eve or Spencer's, which I've never done. I write. I've never done. And it comes in a very discreet package. That's how OPL will work. The biggest population. That will benefit from this are those who have limited access to contraception in first place. There is a lot of people in the country that live in. What we all call a contraceptive shin. Deserts. And there are areas that are limited to have no access to reproductive healthcare provides. Or to providers meaning and they'll have to drive really, really far away to be able to access a provider, or they may not have access to a pharmacy close by. That's what the. Director said. They also go into in particular, this can impact adolescents who are often reluctant. On adult to provide the transportation or the resources to be able to go to a provider. And this allows them to also have access to contraceptions with more privacy. Similarity. People who may be in a domestic violence situation where they may be a component of contraceptive sabotage. Where someone is either preventing them from using contraception or messing with their birth control. This way they can access contraception without someone else's. Knowledge. The more avenues through which people can access contraception, whether it's over the counter in store or online, more control, they have over their own reproductive health and choices. Now having online options for people who are very tech, savvy, and comfortable navigating the online environment, which we know younger people are better at anyways. Is a great option. They go on to say that. Of course, it's also really important to have pharmacies and physical locations. Where other folks who need. To overcome the barriers of prescription requirement can get that over the counter option and may. B even interface with a pharmacist, if they want to. There's no requirement that they need to do that, but it's great to have as many options as available for people. Last year the U S food and drug administration approved old pill for use without a prescription. And no age limit public health experts apply the move as a milestone for the expansion of access to contraception in the United States. Now the rollout has began. However, there are some concerns that states could place restriction on the access. Say that we not the president, but the president of this company went on to say that we live in a time where everything having to do with people's sexual and reproductive health, and people's ability to realize their reproductive goals and pursue reproductive freedoms is absolutely politicized. No states have made such proposals or actions on restricting access to OPL, but the concern stem that the us Supreme court's DOB decision in 2022. Which reversed. Roe V. Wade and overturn it the constitutional rights to an abortion. We are concerned about access to all forms of sexual reproductive health. So of course the OBS decision directly impacted abortions access, but we've seen evidence. That it has trickled out and impact that sexual improve reproductive healthcare. And contraception healthcare. Cod worth, who testified at an FDA public hearing last year in support of approving old pill without an age restriction. It's a huge milestone that old pill is available over the counter. And I think we should really celebrate the milestone and we should situate this milestone. On this. Treachery of always wanting to move toward increased access to all people. Now you're probably light wall Stefan, what's the political side of this. Like we know that this is. Going to have some type of effect statewide. And every state. Is either going to love this, or they're not. We know the Southern states are going to try and make an age requirement of. This pill. Because the FDA approve old pill without an age research and people have started menstruating. And those going through. Pre menopause can purchase it. Dr. Leanna associate professor at George Washington university said this month. In her previous role as health commissioner of Baltimore, she oversaw the city run reproductive health clinics. She says that old pill should be considered by individuals who desire birth control, but are unable to see primary care physician, a gynecologist or other providers who can prescribe birth control pills. Some states. May try and enforce age restriction on old pill. It says doctor. Then Vidia, G. A director of the nonprofit of the network for public health law said in that email there are age restrictions on certain medications on a state by state basis and other content such as with over-the-counter drugs containing office. supplement. And other over the counter drugs in 20 20 12, California became the first state to prohibit the sell of cough medicines to minors and since then governors have several other states have signed similar laws. Similarly. Or separately, I should say. When it comes to plan B emergency contraceptions, there have been some attempts to enforce state by state differences in age restriction to. Plan B was approved for over the counter use for adults in 2006. And in 2013, when it was approved for all ages. That year Oklahoma passed a law requiring anyone 17 and under. To obtain a prescription before plan B could be dispensed to them. The state was sued and the plaintiff. I'm represented by the center for reproductive rights prevailed. And the law was held to be unconstitutional because it violates the state single subject rule. The rule prohibits individual pieces of legislation or ballot in this shit. From addressing more than one issue or unrelated issues in a single law. But these examples are not set by precedent for what type of authority states may have to restrict access to an FDA approved medication. When it comes to old pill, many states. Also allow pharmacists to refuse to participate in the healthcare. That they find morally objectable. This could include providing individuals with old pill, even though. It is OTC. Legal approval and actual access are two. Distinct issues. And the latter influenced by a border set of factors, including state policies, healthcare practices. Birth control over the counter. I don't, I don't like how this article at the very end. And this is more of. I just don't like it. How that it says that many states. Also allow pharmacists to refuse to participate in the healthcare that they find morally objectable. And I don't like that. I don't like that at all because it's definitely something that Florida has on the books. And there were some other Republican led states where if a healthcare provider doesn't feel morally or ethically, or maybe it goes against their religion. Where they can dictate. Well, we're not going to give you both control and its, or we're not going to give you a certain care or if it's old pill or maybe it's prep. Or whatever the case may be. Like I understand. What. Maybe their personal belief is, but this is healthcare. You entered a field to help people. Not to judge them on their life and not for you. To sit here and be light while I'm just not now. Sorry, we're not going to give it to you. Especially, let's say that you are in one of those Republican led states. And let's say on a Tuesday, you go and you buy and you try and go buy old pill and the ones and that pharmacist that day, right. Is like, nah. Sorry, I don't believe in giving out birth control and it's like, what? I don't give a damn what you don't believe. Like you're in healthcare to help people. Not to help a selective. View. If that's the case, you need to open your own private clinic. And help the select a few that you want to. Otherwise, when you enter healthcare, you are obligated to help. Everyone, no matter what their race, no matter what their creed is, no matter what their religion is, no matter what their sexual orientation is. If it. If that's not for you. Get out of healthcare. Right. I think that old pill. Is going to be amazing. I think that all of our younger women and even some of our older women. Or just women in general, this is good. This is. This is a step in the right direction. I just am going to see some challenges. I feel like, and I mean, right now it's just probably the age requirement. We'll probably be a challenge, which is, I mean, it's negotiable to be like, okay, well, you know, when should this, but at the same time every, you know, things are hitting differently. For young girls than they were maybe 20, 20, 30 years ago. Right. They're definitely developing a lot sooner than 20, 30 years. So, oh, pill. Is good. That's a good thing. Will it be challenged obviously? We're gonna switch gears a little bit. And we are going to talk about. Pregnancy deaths. It's a very. Sad topic. But we have to talk about, we have to bring some type of. Awareness to the issue, specially. Because this article that I'm about to read focuses on our black and brown community and how. We are three times more likely to die. From pregnancy birth. Or post. Pardon? We'll talk about that next right here on the last conversation. So. Maternal. Mortality has been a rising concern in the black and brown community. COVID contributed. A lot to these stats that the CDC released. This is something that I was doing research of, okay, well, what are the things that I should talk about that focuses on women? This article popped up and as I said before, I went into rabbit holes. I, it was just one article after the next. And. I want to just bring awareness to it. And maybe, you know, someone who is pregnant. Or maybe. Just share the episode. That's what I want you to do. Share the episode. All right, let's get into it. So in 2020. Doctor. Sharon's Wallace, a pediatrician who was chief resident at Indiana university of school of medicine. Died. Just two days after given both to her daughter, Charlotte. Charmaine. Gibson studied at New York university. And Medger Evers college and dies in 2019, just 13 days after giving birth to her second child. In 2007 17, Dr. Sharon. Irene, She worked for the us center of disease and control and prevention CDC. And was Lieutenant commander in the us public health service commissioned corpse died three weeks after giving birth after her ignored. When returning to the hospital for care. In 2016 Kara Johnson who had two degrees spoke five languages, and what's the daughter in law of TVs, judge hatchet. Bled to death after a routine C-section in Los Angeles hospital. These tragic deaths highlight what black women have known for years. That being well-educated and well-resourced simply is not fully protective factors when it comes to maternal mortality. Wait. Selena Williams near death experience after given birth only underscore that. In 20, 20 black women in the United States, where 2.9 times more likely to die during or after childbirth. Than a white woman. According to CDC. But more notably, a new study published in January showed that the wealthiest black moms are more likely to die in childbirth than the poorest white moms. The study uses California's administrative data to show how household incomes alone is not protected from racism's impact on, infant care outcomes. It's clear black maternal mortality is not just a low income problem. But a current wave of policy and advocacy work is primarily focused on re immersing doulas and offering me that pregnancy-related services to Medicare eligible patients. Doulas train birth professionals who serve as educators and advocates to pregnant women have been shown to be both per tech active. Improving birth outcomes for black women and also cost-effective by re reducing the hospital expensive of preterm births. And C-sections. And Oakland B incentive beloved birth center program with remarkable outcomes is reducing preterm birth rates include. Rates provides a doula. A fitness trainer, a chef prepared meals for six weeks postpartum. A pregnancy related photo shoot. Midwife where you led prenatal visits and lactation consultant, but this comprehensive program is currently on available to black women on the state's Medicare program in New York the first free. Doula program is focused on marginalizing zip codes. They go on to say, just because you are not on Medicaid. Does not mean that you can fully afford a doula or other birth professionals that black woman need. Tracy Collins, CEO and founder of national. Black doula association and the host of healthy girls podcast and the interview via email, too many black women are falling in the gap. Doulas. Our only one piece of the complicated puzzle that ultimately must include cultural change within medical institutions and systematic change over all. Now there's more research, reflecting the other line, reality that regardless of educational, attuned, or related factors like income, black women experience higher maternal mortality rates across the board. So why aren't more policies and advocates efforts focused on providing pregnancy and post-partum services for black women across the economic spectrum. The misconception and the narrative that black Maternal mortality rates are tied to income has already caused harm. Black women professionals, scientists and medical doctors have shared with the article. They're near death misses in childbirth. Several of them also share that they to consider themselves not a. At risk high. Many black, both. Berthings folks reasoned. If the so-called research said the problem is being poor and unable to advocate for yourself and not poor. And I'm educated enough to advocate for myself, then I will be okay. That's false and dangerous thinking. Chanel said the founder and executive director of ancient song. Doula services. They go on to say that in my travels advocating for black and brown patients experience. Data as a critical tool. For symptomatic change. I met with many middle-class black women who are not on Medicaid or who are not eligible for Medicaid. But don't make enough to afford the cost of a doula or an at home postpartum support. Some friends and family to chip in and I encourage them. To put in on the baby registry as something other to contribute to, but the idea of burdening others family, friends often does not sit well with them and not every community member. Things say doula as necessary at when a crib diapers and other centrals are also needed. To be clear. Efforts that focus on the needs of under resources. Under-resourced our critical. More than 3.3 million black woman. Or one in four nationally are covered by Medicare. According to the national health law programs, doula, Medicaid project, 11 states. Medicare program currently reimburse doulas to a modest degree. And nearly a dozen of them. This is an overdue recognition of the value of doulas and a critical. Momentum to make sure that they are accessible. And paid a level. Full wage. There's one more thing I want to go over that one of the main messages I think from this is really, there's a much bigger. Society problem facing pregnant women. And new moms who are in that postpartum period where, you know, That's a very stressful time of life. What this points to is. That there's particular vulnerability in this population to some of the other social factors. That's what the article said. If you go back to 2015, most of the deaths in this population were from pregnancy specific causes. I think it's around 60% to 40%. From where other causes in 2020, it's kind of a flip-flop. One of my toric. The year after birth is a critical time period. Women are still at risk for a number of pregnancy associated causes to death. Of that. However, for the most part, they are disconnected from the healthcare system. It is important for community and family to provide support and understand the issues that are facing postpartum women. Put them at risk of death. This article brings the light, something that has been an issue, but it has not been an issue. That we are talking about. In the black and brown community. This is an issue that highly affects us. There's a lot of health issues that we have in the black and brown community that we do not talk about. So our maternal rate. Of deaths. We also have high blood pressure. We have. Other medical issues in our community that we do not talk about. And this is like a come to Jesus moment. And I remember when my goddaughter was born. And her mom had. Medical issues as well. And I remember we were racing her back to the hospital. Everything turned out fine. Her mom's behind my goddaughter is fine. But. There are issues in the healthcare industry that we don't talk about at all. And I think we need to bring more awareness to those issues. Now, that's not the say that the healthcare system. Messed up its relationship with the black and brown community. From the start. Now, if we're going to get real, let's get real. You know, we, and it's been pulled in. That we will go to the doctor with an issue and that doctor will dismiss us with probably whatever it may be. Let's say that you have a sore throat, right? Oh, or that's, that's what you think you're like, oh my throat's a little raspy or whatever you go to the one of these clinics or your doctor or whatever the case may be. And they're like, oh, well you just have a sore throat. When underlining you had throat cancer. That's a huge jump in, but it is a situation. R. Health is dismissed in the healthcare system. The healthcare system is systematically racist. Against black and brown people and I'm not saying this because it's not known. It's known there's huge disparities. For us being in the black and brown community, when it comes to healthcare. And until we start addressing these healthcare issues and bringing them to light, nothing's going to get done. Something that I always suggest to my black and brown people is I always tell them if you're going to get a primary care doctor. You need to get one that looks like you. Now you're probably like walls, the Fonda. The, and I'm not saying that. Other races of doctors. Our bad. I'm not saying that whatsoever. I've had a white female doctor for a while. But then I switched over to a black doctor. Black male doctor. And that's because he's going to understand. What health issues we're going to have in our community. My, my other doctors, she was amazing. I love her. But I switched over because as I get older, I want someone who's going to look like me. I want someone who's going to nail what type of diseases? Or type of health. Issues. Runs and the black and brown community. We're going to talk about IVF in. Alabama. There's about three questions on this article that I'm going to go over. That clearly explains more. About it. So you have a better understanding. I have a better understanding. And we're both on the same page. So remember how we talked about IVF in the last episode? And some of you guys were probably left, confused. I was left kind of confused. Cause there was only one. And I really listened to the episode. So in this episode, we're going to be on the same page. All right. So I want to give a huge shout out to John Hopkins, Bloomberg school of public health. For putting this out. Helping some of us understand what's going on. I will put a link. In the description, so you can read it and also listen to it as well, because this is something that's really important. But let's get to the reason of why. We are in the spot. You're in. What is the Alabama court case about? The plaintiffs are three couples who. All underwent IVF treatments at eight. At a four. clinic. And Alabama. Through the IVF treatment they received, they all became pregnant and gave birth to help the healthy babies. As a result of the IVF treatments, they also produced a number of additional embryos. This is standard practice in the IVF cycle. Those additional embryos that are not used, were frozen and preserved by the fertility clinic. The presumption is that couples could come back at some later time and have another IVF cycle. Using those embryos without having to go through the entire hormonal treatment and surgeries. What happened next is what gave rise to this case. The plaintiff's couples frozen and Brailles have been cryo-preserved at the fertility clinic. Which is located in a hospital. In December, 2020. A patient of that hospital enter the fertility clinics cryo. Preservation unit. And open one of the tanks. In there in which frozen embryos are stored, these embryos are stored at subfreezing temperatures. So the patient put his hand in and grabbed some of the in barrels. He burned himself and drop the embryos. Which hit the ground and were destroyed. The patient couples or the plaintiff couples brought lawsuits again. Against the fertility clinic. And the hospital. One of the lawsuits is for negligence and wantonness, but that wasn't part of this case. The other lawsuit, the one that's the subject of this case was against the hospital and the clinic for the wrongful death of a minor act. Which is an Alabama statute. At the trial court, this case was dismissed. The trial judge stay. The embryos that exist in vitro are not people or children for the purposes of the wrongful death of a minor act. And therefore was no claim that the couples could bring under that act. The couple's appealed that decision to the Supreme court of Alabama, the highest court in that state, the Supreme court disagreed. And in a nutshell, They said that the wrongful death of this minor does apply. This brief quote. They said to all unborn children without limitation. And that includes unborn children who are not located in you TRO at the time they are killed. So in fact, the Alabama Supreme court determined that these in vitro embryos are declared personhood. So they have, they are children or people. And the couples can therefore proceed with their lawsuit. They are seeking punitive damages for what they say is wrongful death of their children. Tell me more about this wrongful death of a minor. And how it's being applied. The wrongful death of a minor act dates back to 1872. At the time it was introduced. IVF did not exist. Then they had a very different understanding of developing fetus. There is prior Alabama Supreme court case law, making clear that a fetus developing in utero is considered a child. For the purposes of wrongful death of a minor act. So a parent could bring a claim under that act. If a fetus developing in utero dies due to an incident. This is the first time ever that the definition of a minor or H high yield under that statute has been applied to an embryo. That exists in the lab. Do you think the federal courts would step in? And their answer is at least in my mind. There isn't a clear path to take this case to the us Supreme court. Since it involves an Alabama state statue. It involves the interpretation of the Alabama state constitution. The ball is more likely to land squarely in the court of Alabama's legislature. There are nine justice that heard the appeal in Alabama, two of them, one in the state. And one who agreed, but wrote separately have said that the proper body. To determine how to regulate IVF and what to do with embryos is not the court it's legislators. This issue is likely to land back in the Alabama letter Slater. Which we'll have to decide what to do, whether they want to carve out an exemption. Wrongful death statues that have been not introduced. All that this complication for in vitro in barrels or whether they want to take a broader look at IVF with the input bioethics reproductive. And legal. Is there anything else that makes this decision so extraordinary? It's clearly extraordinary in. It's determination. That. In vitro eight cell. Embryos are considered people, but beyond that, B concurring decision of the chief justice and the main justice are really. Relevant. In the decision as I was reading these opinions. What really struck me is that the rhetoric sounds more like scripture than it does the language of a law. Here's what they said... we believe that each human. Being from the moment of contraception is made in the image of God. Created by him to reflect its lightness. It is as if the people of Alabama took what was spoken of the prophet. And applied it to every unborn person in a state. The chief justice continues referring to the embryos. Carving out an exemption for the people in this case, small as they are. It would be unacceptable to the people of this state who have required the treat up to treat every human being in accordance with the fear of holy God. Who made them in. His image. Is remarkable decision, both in outcomes and its analysis that took to the courts. In the article the reason a lot of couples do you IVF? Is because there are over a million and a half embryos currently frozen across the United States. This isn't all in Alabama, but it raises a huge question about what the obligations are for frozen embryos. Does that mean they can not be destroyed and have to be preserved forever. And half of all IVF. Cycles that take place involve preimplantation genetic testing of embryos, many couples that seek IVF do so because one. Of the members is a carrier of a known genetic mutation associated with a serious disease or conditions. Those couples seek IVs so they can have embryos genetically tested prior. To implantation. And if this genetic mutation is discovered in an embryo, Edinburgh is usually discarded. Does that mean that preimplantation genetic testing should no longer take place because it cannot cause you cannot disclose the Ambrose. Those are too, or just to the questions of the rising from involving what to do with these embryos. If they are human beings. And can give rise to liability. Well, So much. Right. But I wanted to give a clear understanding of. What we were looking at because as I said, I read it. And I was like, man. What the hell did I address? And then, you know, like how sometimes you'll read something. And then you'll realize three other things and you're like, okay, I understand what they're saying. So that's why I wanted to do in this one. We're going to take a quick break. Now. Most of you guys now, I love making fun of. Marginally Taylor green. Or AKA the green.one. But this right here. Now it's a full. It's not really an interview. Well, it is like an interview. But I'm not alone. Let you listen to before. It's really this last, like minute into. That Jen. It's not funny, but take a listen to it. Tell me why so many people that support Donald Trump love conspiracy theories, including yourself. He seems to attract lots of conspiracy theorists. Well, let me tell you you're a conspiracy theorist and the left in the media spreads more conspiracy theories. We like the truth. We like supporting our constitution, our freedoms and America. First sound about Jewish space lasers. Tell us about Jewish. Why don't you? Why don't you. Let's go talk about Jewish space lasers, and really why don't you fuck off? How about that? Thanks. Thank you very much. Hi. Oh, Oh, does it not bring. She said, why. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. I'm good. Good. I don't. I don't know why that's so funny, but that's marjorie Taylor green for ya. Like she came up with the Jewish space. Leisure's like, Jewish. Space lasers. We're going to strike us like pew, pew, pew, pew. Oh, I just like how she ended that by us. I just saying poor reporter. I definitely. It's not funny, but it's funny. And she's like, why don't you just go fuck off. Like wow. Wow. Wow. Just man, just. Anyways. I hope you guys laughed at that part too. Like I was that's so that's so hilarious anyways. So this episode. Every time. I think violate now I'm just. Just like laughing in my head anyways. So before we end the show, I want to do our weekly shout out to all the countries except the United States. That also listen to this show. I want to see these numbers go up. So. In both place. We have Australia like. All right. My light. My, is that, is that it might, is it the, I don't know. Anyways, conga role. I'm sorry. Anyways, but yeah, so Australia. You are like the second country from the United States that listen to the show. So thank you. You, you deserve a round of applause. There you go Australia. Next up is India. And then we have Canada. And then we have the United Kingdom now United Kingdom. We're going to have to step up. We're going to have to get up there with Australia. Okay. So I don't know, maybe send this over to the king or send it to the pallet. However, I keep giving you guys compliments. Like I love. Scotland. I love the United Kingdom. I love the medieval. I love the castles every time. Like I interact with someone from the UK, I'm like, Hey, can I come? I buy a castle. And they're like, you know, sure. I, I guess. And then we got Nigeria. Nigeria is on the list too. Ireland is on here. It's not a lot of people, but. There's two people in Ireland. You guys know about my piece of land. I like to do this every two weeks or whenever we do an episode, just to show my appreciation. For all of you guys who listen to the show. Because I truly try and meet these shows for you guys or try and make them somewhat entertaining. This one, this episode, I can definitely say I'm going to be doing a lot of editing. Good, but, you know but. Next week. I do want to get another episode out for you. It's going to be on D E I. D E I Stansberry diversity. Equality and inclusion. The reason why we're going to focus on this is because this is going to be a very hot topic. For this upcoming political culture. And it's just the culture in general for a lot of Southern states that are Republican led that are trying, that are. I wouldn't say trying to, they are getting rid of D E I programs. Or prohibiting it in schools. Or prohibiting in the workplace. I would probably like will Stefan, why is DEI even that important? DEI is a structure of. R. Country. You need diversity, you need equality and you need inclusion. It definitely relates to us being in the black and brown community. You know how these people already look at us. So now. These Republican led states are taking them out. Of schools. Jobs. So it's, we're going to talk about DEI. Also with that, we're going to talk about how the NAACP is also encouraging our black and brown athletes. To look for colleges. That are encouraging D E I N to be on the lookout for the colleges. We're not supporting DEI as much as they might like you for your basketball skills. They may not be a diversity equality or inclusion schools. Which means it's going to be a whole different ball game for you. We'll talk about that next week. Anyways. I love you all. Be safe. Be kind. Be different. Do what that inspirational messages and find something that makes you happy this week. Whether it's going for a walk. Maybe it's getting coffee by yourself. Whatever the case may be. Find one famous week one. One thing that makes you happy. Not what makes someone else happy? Not what makes your job happy. Not what makes your coworkers happy? Find something this week. That is your challenge. This is your challenge to find one thing. One thing that makes you happy. At the end of the day. The only person who cares about your happiness is going to be you. Take care of everyone.

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